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Some time in the nineteenth century, somebody decided it was a good idea to move writing out of its prominent place at the apex of the liberal arts education and instead to pound it into an iron gate, a device for keeping the unworthy from the “real” courses colleges offer.  Some time between then and now, reformers democratized that first-year composition sequence, introducing ancient innovations like argument structure and copia and revision to the masses. And now, in the era of Twitter and Trump and questions about why we have colleges in the first place, a pair of professors dares to make a first-year writing book affordable, and here we are, sitting with Dr. Richard Holland, ready to talk about his new writing textbook Good Arguments, written with Dr. Benjamin K. Forrest.