The Christian Humanist Podcast, Episode 13: The Death of Conservatism
We’re back to our standard theme song this week: Neko Case’s “People Got a Lotta Nerve,” from Middle Cyclone (2009).
General Introduction
- What’s on the blog?
- Sam Mulberry wins a windbreaker
The Death of Conservatism
- Introduction to Sam Tanenhaus
- Our gut reactions to the book
- Three thumbs pointing various degrees of down
Could This Book Have Been Released in 2004?
- GOP on the ropes
- George W. Bush as ultimate movement conservative ideologue
- Why David feels like Abe Vigoda
- Things have changed
- Nathan uses a passive verb
Philosophical vs. Movement Conservatism
- Is this a fair distinction to make?
- The “kindred spirit” approach
- Philosophical vs. movement liberalism
- Openness vs. closedness
Conservatism vs. Radicalism
- Too broad a movement
- Tradition as status quo
- What do conservatives actually want to conserve?
- Why liberals like Leave It to Beaver now
Dialectical Politics
- “The dragging heels of the body politic”
- Theory vs. observations
- How Tanenhaus confuses effect with goal
- Is there an inevitable trajectory of history?
- Why attention to the particular matters
- Flattening historical moment
Orthodoxy vs. Compromise
- Blue dogs and rhinos
- Impotence vs. acquiescence
- Do liberals eat their own?
- Left-wing complaints about Obama
Republican Disinterest in Specifics
- A healthy disinterest, David argues
- Turning libertarian
- Are conservatives simplistic?
- Conservatism as keeping to yourself
- Polarization on both ends of the spectrum
- Nathan plugs his candidate
The Culture War™
- Is it a part of the past?
- Sarah Palin’s elite-baiting
- Who counts as an elite?
- Michial declares his Catonism; Nathan contends
- How democracy leads to tyranny
- A fourth ex-cathedra pronouncement: You’re the man now, dog
The Death of Social Conservatism?
- Mores, not populism
- Celibate vampires vs. prime-time television
- The libertarian uprising
- How big of a voice do social conservatives have now?
- Social conservatism as a consumer choice
- Michial’s socially conservative fatalism
- Nathan’s humorless, quasi-Anabaptist, lunatic sanguinity
Looking to the Future
- Making a new way
- Becoming more conscious
- Nathan is tired of being a wannabe Anabaptist. He wants to be an Anabaptist!
- Taking the best from all movements
BIBLIOGRAPHY
Augustine. City of God. Trans. Henry Bettenson. New York: Penguin, 2003.
Burke, Edmund. Reflections on the Revolution in France. New York: Penguin, 1976.
Hauerwas, Stanley. Resident Aliens. Nashville: Abingdon, 1989.
Kirk, Russell. The Essential Russell Kirk. Wilmington, Del.: Intercollegiate Studies Institute, 2006.
Plato. The Republic. Trans. Desmond Lee. New York: Penguin, 1987.
Postman, Neil. Building a Bridge to the 18th Century: How the Past Can Improve Our Future. New York: Vintage, 2000.
Tanenhaus, Sam. The Death of Conservatism. New York: Random House, 2009.
Weaver, Richard M. Ideas Have Consequences. Chicago: U of Chicago P, 1984.
Wood, Ralph C. The Comedy of Redemption: Christian Faith and Comic Vision in Four American Novelists. Notre Dame: U of Notre Dame P, 1988.
Celebrate faith, learning, and the happy convergences of the two with awesome CHP gear, including (so far!) coffee mugs with the reverend visages of Martin Luther, Desiderius Erasmus, John Calvin, Thomas Aquinas, Elizabeth I, Christopher Marlowe, Francis Bacon, and Søren Kierkegaard.








I don’t think I’ve said this before, but one of the most anticipated events of my podcast day is the show notes. Love’em!
I always look with some trepidation, anticipating how Farmer is going to skewer me this week.
If you can’t beat ‘em, mock ‘em.
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Patrick Deneen recently wrote a pretty good essay detailing some of the differences between Russell-Kirk-flavored and George-W.-Bush-flavored conservatisms. I figured a link here might be worthwhile.